Sunday, October 12, 2008

the scientist as Nietzsche's superman
(is the new atheism the new facism?)

It is becoming increasingly obvious to me, a priest who reads the scientific press, religiously, every week, that the likes of Dick Dorkins are not promoting a new, peaceful humanity free of religious dogmatism, but are advocating a return to the scientific arrogance of the late 19th. Century that gave rise to eugenics and eventually the wars, the dictatorships and the genocide of the 20th. Century. All they now need is a modern day Wagner to give them a musical accompaniment.

Their is an excellent article by Paul Vallely today in
THE INDEPENDENT ON SUNDAY which examines the causes of this bitter scientism. It begins by relating the story of Professor Reiss, a non-stipendiary priest, who was hounded out of his job as chief education officer for the Royal Society:

''A clergyman in charge of education for the country's leading scientific organisation – it's a Monty Python sketch," pronounced Britain's top atheist, Richard Dawkins, recently.

The problem was that Reiss, as well as being an evolutionary biologist and population geneticist, is a non-stipendiary priest in the Church of England. When he said recently that science teachers should answer questions about creationism if pupils asked them he was deemed to have been advocating the idea that British schools should teach the idea that the world was magicked up (complete with fossils and ancient geology) just 6,000 years ago – and then tell pupils to make their own minds up between that and the theory of evolution to which the overwhelming scientific evidence points.

The hapless Reiss made it clear that he insists creationism is scientific nonsense. But a handful of the Royal Society's most eminent members began a campaign to have him sacked. Sir Harry Kroto, Sir Richard Roberts and Sir John Sulston said in a letter to the president of the Royal Society: "We gather Professor Reiss is a clergyman, which in itself is very worrisome." We must all now be on the look-out, it now seems for Revs under the beds.

If you do not find this as worrisome as the thought of Mrs Palin becoming vice president of the U.S. then what the feck are you doing hanging around my blog?

Vallely then goes on to explain how American fundamentalism, with its need to control, has created the backlash of atheistic fundamentalism, with its own, just as unyielding, need to control. He finishes his article with the following paragraph, the reading of which should make you want to rush over and read the original article in full:

Perhaps the conflict is not between science and religion but between good and bad ways of doing both. In all of us there will always be a struggle between the craving for certainty, purity and closure and the acceptance of mystery, brokenness and provisionality. At their best, both scientists and people of faith are in a permanent state of awe-struck humility before the wonder and strangeness and messiness of things. At their worst, they are arrogant, dogmatic, and incurious. There's a bit of both in all of us, of course.

9 comments:

Strangelove said...

Thanks very much for this, MP - one of the best things I have read on this subject. I have always believed that there need be no conflict between science and religion; science is concerned with the "how" and religion is concerned with the "why." What I do fear is that overall we seem to be less and less tolerant abut more and more. Eventually we will be absolutely intolerant of everything, and then comes the "new dark age" Churchill warned us about some 70 years ago. Who knows - maybe it's coming now.....

KJ said...

Couldn't agree more.

Recently, in a similar discussion with an acquaintance, I commented that I think the biggest concern is teaching little puddin' heads to review information, and begin to to learn how to ask questions, collect data, review the data and make conclusions and couldn't understand why people would be so afraid about doing that in the context of spontaneous creation versus evolution.

He replied that we might as well teach about the Easter Bunny in school. "Brilliant!" I told him. What a great 5th grade science project -- Create your hypotheses, collect your data, present your conclusions.

pj said...

That last paragraph is indeed beautiful and I have bookmarked the article for later. Thanks, MP!

BillyD said...

We gather Professor Reiss is a clergyman, which in itself is very worrisome."

I gather Gregor Mendel was a clergyman, as well...

Anonymous said...

Billyd wins! I might also point out, on a more elevated clerical level, our Presiding Bishop is a scientist as well.

Just another one of the problems caused by the fundamentalists...

Roberts and Sulston are well known molecular biologists (I believe Roberts won a Nobel Prize, unless I have mixed him up with some other Roberts), but they still need to do a little fact checking before rebuffing a potential ally.

NancyP

klady said...

The problem, as I see it, is that some of the atheist scientists are unwilling to recognize that what they claim to despise about religion -- its dogmatism and arrogance -- is very much part and parcel of the culture and practice of science.

Someday when IT is not off honeymooning or otherwise engaged, I would like to explore the notion that the best of science should promote the virtues of humility, tolerance, and open-mindedness. The problem with the atheists who are hawking up and down the lecture circuit is not so much that they adhere to the view that there is no God but rather that they see science as some grand, noble, salvific enterprise superior to all others. I contend that good scientists or promoters of science see themselves more humbly and realistically as just folks who have jobs to do in exploring their corners of the universe, with a good dose of awe and humility at the thought of how small they are compared to the vastness of the whole, whether one sees it as godless or chaotic without purpose - or not.

Good science, therefore, should operate within some kind of moral framework. Whether or not the sense of awe and humility that can be drawn from scientific facts is enough to create and sustain such a framework without religion is another question. But if anyone is interested in delving into this further, I'd love to talk someday about the following passage, which comes from a lengthy review by Douglas Kysar of the book "Break Through: from the Death of Environmentalism to the Politics of Possibility" by Ted Nordhaus & Michael Shellenburger (text here)

Kysar is reviewing the book's critique of what the authors view as the Romantic, dogmatic views of traditional environmentalists, focusing on what they consider to be a wrongheaded distinction between human and non-human nature. He summarizes this, in part, as follows:

"What, after all, is the sense in feeling guilty about humanity’s impact on the environment if we no longer believe that the latter exists outside of our sphere of impact? Environmentalists try mightily to develop scientific measures of the size of humanity’s “ecological footprint” – such as the share of the planet’s photosynthetic product that is diverted to human use – as if the shock of these figures alone will prompt us to squeeze into smaller shoes. As Nordhaus and Shellenberger argue, however, we might just as easily regard the figures as a fitting occasion to declare, once and for all, the whole planet ours, without guilt or embarrassment, and simply trust in our ability to manage it: “We are as gods and might as well get good at it.”

While some irony no doubt was intended, nevertheless, it appears that this is precisely what the authors are advocating -- and quite frankly that scares the heck out of me. Now maybe some of the atheists are just arrogant jerks (just as are some religionists) and their science has nothing to do with it. But if the notion that humans are capable of acting like gods is ascending again in science, we're all going to be in deeper trouble than we all already.

[Sorry - see MP, you say something nice about me and you get these long-winded, madness-inducing comments again. Bottomline, I agree with all you say and yes, that last quote is a keeper.]

MadPriest said...

I agree with everything Klady has just said.

TRANSLATION: It's 11.30 at night and I'm knackered. If Klady thinks I'm going to read all that she's nowhere near as clever as I said she was earlier.

klady said...

Goodnight MP! Sweet dreams.

Samuel Skinner said...

Surprise, surprise- scientists over reacted and took something out of context. It isn't like there has been a campaign to get creationism taught in schools or that they live in a country with an official religion... wait a minute...