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From JIMB:
My younger son Stephan, is bi-polar. He wont take the medications prescribed, a long and difficult story.
He is at the moment delusional and deep in a depression cycle. Frankly he scares me to death. He is very very bright and lonely. He is not so suicical in my view that I can force him into treatment under Illinois law but that does not mean he is safe.
Can I ask that the OCICBW... prayer army be mobilized for him.
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From Kevin at A VIEW FROM THE EARTH:
Prayer does work, I was offered a new job last week, which I start on Thursday. I believe it will be better for both me and my family.
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Posted by Father Kenny at RECTOR'S RAMBLINGS:
Why am I down anyway? Count the blessings, Kenny! However many they are, and they are legion really, it's the negatives that are creeping into my consciousness and taking control. My dad's frailty and his future. The fact we have no relationship at all now, of any worth. My sense of failure to have done or achieved much, due to years of alcoholism. The way I perceive people think of me: a fool, an ass, holding on in life by the skin of my teeth. The sinking realisation that I'm never going to do things I would have liked to do, as wasted years have left it all too late.
I guess it's wilderness experience. The wilderness of Lent and the experience of the Cross.
30 comments:
Prayers for Stephan and Kenny!
From here as well. May Stephan and Fr. Kenny find peace and comfort in their distress.
JimB--you have been on my list for quite some time now. How are you feeling? And is there any news on the job front?
Pax,
Doxy
Thanks and prayers ascending.
Kenny, your thoughts are a modern day psalm that many of us share. Lent sucks, and I don't just mean the season.
Prayers for hope and wholeness for all three.
As the spouse of someone who was diagnosed as manic depressive 45 years ago, let me assure you that it can be managed without medication. However, management takes constant attention to diet and the requisite periods of sleep. When the patient gets over-stimulated, it's important to insure adequate rest and an over-the-counter sleep aid may be called for.
It's hard for an observer to know for certain that an enthusiasm or depression are rational. But, it's best to make a call on the side of more rest and better nutrition.
The "normal" human brain needs between seven and nine hours of sleep a night. Sensitive brains may need more. However you can get them to sleep, do it.
BTW, in addition to managing the spouse, I've had the opportunity of participating in a considerable number of mental health programs geared towards juveniles. Consequently, I've been able to conclude that if medications don't work, it's most likely because the diagnosis is wrong.
Hannah,
Stephan's idea of managing without medication involves Marijuana. To say the least a bad idea. I know some bi-polars can deal with their condition without prescription drugs but two things: they are rare and they are slow cycle. Stephan is rapid cycle -- he can go from manic to depressed and back in under two minutes. And that without the {deleted adjectives} dope.
And he is not married. He is on his own. No one is there to 'manage him.' The kid needs help and wont take it.
FWIW
jimB
Prayers ascending for you Fr. K.
Thanks everyone for your prayers.
FWIW
jimB
Praying from México.
Do Mexican prayers count? I mean you are a particularly wicked people. I mean, look what those bandits did to those poor villagers in The Magnificent Seven. And then there was the Alamo business where you lot killed the King of the Wild Front Ear.
Well then, for the sake of JimB, Kevin and Padre Kenny, (and all the others we now have on the list) I could swim the Rio Bravo and pray from el otro lado. God hears everything from the Land o' the Free & the Home o' the Brave. Diosa Todopoderosa is Statesonian you know.
Oh MP. You are too funny - "Wild Front Ear" indeed!
But that does not distract me from my task: Prayers for all.
prayers for all involved.
Prayers for Jim, Stephan, and Fr. Kenny.
Prayers going up.
Saying prayers for those in need.
JimB - Lots of prayers and sympathy from here. We are also dealing with a daughter who was self-medicating with MJ. It really aggravates the problem. Diagnosis is critical for proper treatment. We've had 3 different psychologists, 3 different diagnoses. It's really hard and scary.
Kevin - Yay! Thanksgiving
Fr. K - Prayer for comfort and peace.
Jim,
It may be necessary to trick him into treatment. I don't know about where you are, but it may take two medical professionals to certify that a commitment to a facility is needed. If he's already under the care of a physician who's writing prescriptions, then that person should be prepared to address the lack of success.
It's hard if there's no legal partner and parents have no legal standing. So, it may be necessary to involve law enforcement to get him into a crisis stabilization unit.
trick him into treatment...
This is why I keep to myself,..usually.
The thought that nobody notices you, David, is a little difficult to believe. Shine on you crazy diamond!
Prayers from the Republic of Vermont.
I am praying and praying - I have had JimB in my prayers and the others are added.
Thank God we have each other - thank God we have you Maddie.
Diosa Todopoderosa is Statesonian you know.
...and this, after MP assured us He was English!
Prayers ascending...
The way I perceive people think of me: a fool, an ass, holding on in life by the skin of my teeth. The sinking realisation that I'm never going to do things I would have liked to do, as wasted years have left it all too late.
Kenny, get the f@ck out of my head! :-(
Hannah,
Stephan knows the rules. I suppose it is just possible that if I were to sign the relevant papers the police would drag him to a treatment facility. US law is pretty clear, he can demand a release or a hearing in five days. Five days of treatment is not going to do much and he would then be on the street. His psychiatrist (he does see one) wont talk to us because he 'wants to have a direct relationship with Stephan' whatever the heck that means. We actually have a release of Stephan's privacy rights -- doesn't matter he wont talk to us.
;;sigh;;
All I find myself with is prayer and waiting.
FWIW
jimB
Prayers for all ascending from Tulsa.
Marilyn
Dear JimB,
As the wife of a dual diagnosis Bi-Polar 2, I have found this website of help:
Healthcentral
Perhaps you will too.
And prayers for sure.
JImB
Psychiatrists sometimes leave something to be desired. Find yourself another one to consult for your own peace of mind. When you make an appointment for yourself, perhaps Stephan will come along and find the new one more sympatico.
The fellow who'd been treating our suicidal neighbor across the street had to be consoled when the fellow actually offed himself by driving his sports car into a bridge abutment on his way back to the psychiatric hospital from parents' day at his son's college. The doctor was most distraught when his patient didn't return from a day-pass he'd approved. He was even more distraught when he was informed that his patient was dead. He'd just committed himself to another two years at the facility because "you don't get to work with a physics professor every day."
Yes indeed, prayers of Thanksgiving were all around last week in my household. Last Monday the local city council finally approved the building permit for our Church so sometime this summer we might actually have indoor plumbing! Then a job offer was extended to me and I accepted. Starting tomorrow I will be the branch manager of a farm cooperative.
Prayers ascending for JimB and Stephan and also for Fr. Kenny
Prayers Ascending ..Kevin, and all who ask for his energy, ..which is a GIVEN, ..but I'm sure you already knew that!!
Thanks to you all. Your prayers helped me through a really bleak spot. A bit of light shining at the end of the tunnel - again!
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