If you found out that your spouse had the opposite view to yourself in respect of same sex marriage in church would you divorce your partner? Or would the both of you somehow learn to live with it?
If this particular topic would actually be a "deal breaker" for a marriage, it seems to me it wasn't a very strong, stable marriage to begin with.
There are far more serious issues that SHOULD be "deal breakers" - like infidelity, drinking, drug use, abuse of any kind (emotional, mental, physical, sexual - and there are so many forms of all of these that I can't even begin to list it all), etc.
My comment on this, therefore, can be boiled down to "oh come on."
Don't turn the church into an idol. It's not worth it! Life goes on without it! Screw the damn church!
Life without a church is fine. I should know. I've lived it.
But life without one's beloved? That really hurts, and if ya ask me, the church can absolutely go fuck itself in a rolling donut before I'd give up on MY man.
If you can't agree to disagree, you shouldn't be married. It's an important issue, but it's not one which should be allowed to create major domestic friction. It's a point of issue in my own marriage, but we both know that's down to a cultural issue, so we just live with it.
I don't think I could ever be involved with a Republican...so if I imagined myself heterosexual, chances are I would never have partnered with someone who would feel this way about same gender marriage.
At one or moments in the last 44 years, Sue-z and I have disagreed on major social issues. At the moment we disagree on another one. I married a woman not a mirror. She is under no obligation to see things as I do all of the time.
I find Jim's response helpful to one such as me. I have been known to make my views and opinions writ large in my marriage. Social issues, moral issues, social justice issues, grand sweeping historical issues....there are opinions....and they are voiced. Implicitly there is an assumption that these things matter to me. Is the divorce of a marriage likely to be the result of the volume of disagreements or one of fundamental principles and values? Not sure. I'll tell you when he's had enough of the opinions. Only survived 19 years so far.
If this particular topic would actually be a "deal breaker" for a marriage, it seems to me it wasn't a very strong, stable marriage to begin with.
ReplyDeleteThere are far more serious issues that SHOULD be "deal breakers" - like infidelity, drinking, drug use, abuse of any kind (emotional, mental, physical, sexual - and there are so many forms of all of these that I can't even begin to list it all), etc.
My comment on this, therefore, can be boiled down to "oh come on."
Further thoughts...
ReplyDeleteDon't turn the church into an idol. It's not worth it! Life goes on without it! Screw the damn church!
Life without a church is fine. I should know. I've lived it.
But life without one's beloved? That really hurts, and if ya ask me, the church can absolutely go fuck itself in a rolling donut before I'd give up on MY man.
Bugger the damn church.
Had to get that off the DDDs.
If you can't agree to disagree, you shouldn't be married. It's an important issue, but it's not one which should be allowed to create major domestic friction. It's a point of issue in my own marriage, but we both know that's down to a cultural issue, so we just live with it.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point, MP.
ReplyDeleteWhat Tracie said. Religious institutions take themselves *WAY* too seriously.
ReplyDeleteIn my case, yes. But then again we're a same-sex couple so that disagreement would undermine the validity of our relationship.
ReplyDeleteYes, thank you, Wade.
ReplyDeleteNote to self: There's always one.
I don't think I could ever be involved with a Republican...so if I imagined myself heterosexual, chances are I would never have partnered with someone who would feel this way about same gender marriage.
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ReplyDeleteAt one or moments in the last 44 years, Sue-z and I have disagreed on major social issues. At the moment we disagree on another one. I married a woman not a mirror. She is under no obligation to see things as I do all of the time.
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I find Jim's response helpful to one such as me. I have been known to make my views and opinions writ large in my marriage. Social issues, moral issues, social justice issues, grand sweeping historical issues....there are opinions....and they are voiced. Implicitly there is an assumption that these things matter to me. Is the divorce of a marriage likely to be the result of the volume of disagreements or one of fundamental principles and values? Not sure. I'll tell you when he's had enough of the opinions. Only survived 19 years so far.
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